im new to turbos, and i searched but didnt find any info on this. ive seen pics of people puting the air filter directly onto the turbo completely leaving out any air intake piping. what do u do with the sensor that attaches to the intake piping? cause i dont think the wire would reach all the way to the back of the engine where the turbo is at? i figured i might get some better air flow to the filter back there since the hood scoop directs air back there. i have an aem intake that puts the filter down into the engine bay right next to the block. theres a picture of it in my album. thanks for the help!
Don't do it, you won't gain anything but high intake temperatures.
ok, thanks gizmodo. i was thinking about doing some fabrication on the intake i have so that it will go down into the fender well. but figured id ask about this before i did anything drastic. i bought the car a few months ago so im still learning it.
I agree with Gizmodo 100%.... your better off with a short ram intake.... and if you have the stock airbox that works perfectly fine also
Originally Posted by Bad98rt
I agree with Gizmodo 100%.... your better off with a short ram intake.... and if you have the stock airbox that works perfectly fine also
would placing it in the fender make that much of a difference. i would think it would cause im not sucking up all the hot air by the engine. i figured id cut the intake pipe and weld an extention on there so it will reach the hole to the fender well, and then wrap it with the thermal wrap to keep the air a little colder. in theory it sounds good, but ive never really modded before
There are alot of intakes that do this already just look around here is a small lis i can think of
AEM
Kamp;N
JMB performance
Mopar
CTI
AGP
Look around and search alot of the vendors on here offer kits..
A stock intake is cheaper than aftermarket, and is proven out to 350hp. You need your $ for better things like a DSP right now, and a wideband.
Originally Posted by 04blusrt_4
I cant find the thread here, but me and I think Nemo and a Nutz discussed this at length. Short answer, run the filter right off the turbo, makes no difference to power output. Every 12* increase in intake temp equates to a 1% powerloss. With an 80% efficient intercooler (pretty much the standard for any bfmic or direct fit replacement) the temp increase is less than even 15* post intercooling, so at most your talking an immeasurable powerless in the 0-5whp range, something you cant even measure in back to back runs on a dyno or at the track.
That said, you should have capped off the line that comes from the brake booster area up to the side of the intake, its a factory boost leak. Trace that line back and just look at all the lines, you will see how if you remove the line you can reconnect the T's that are already there to make everything still work fine, no extra parts needed. And make sure you at LEAST run a small filter on the side of the valve cover breather. You really should run a line to a catch can, then to a breather filter that protrudes somewhat below the line of site of the air damn under the car or pipe it into the downpipe of the exhaust (helps scavenge the oil vapors).
Filter off turbo?
Originally Posted by phillipgober
would placing it in the fender make that much of a difference. i would think it would cause im not sucking up all the hot air by the engine. i figured id cut the intake pipe and weld an extention on there so it will reach the hole to the fender well, and then wrap it with the thermal wrap to keep the air a little colder. in theory it sounds good, but ive never really modded before
Click the link in my signature.
on my AEM intake, which I like, I have a different filter. The front of the filter has intake material quot;coned inwardquot; to increase air flow in addition to the circumference filter materal.
YOu can also modify your hood scoop, or remove it to increase air flow. Search postings for this.
There are SRT4 people that circumvent traditional filters in favor of screens on the turbos, direct attachment turbo air filters, and quot;mushroomquot; cap shaped air filters on the turbo.
You'll find everyone has an opinion, preference, rationale and disposition toward the intake of cold air, HP, altitude, volumetric air movement etc
thats pretty much what i was thinking about doing gizmodo, just welding insted of the rubber hoses, although the rubber hoses would be easier, so i might just do that. and valleyracer, id be worried to put just a screen on the turbo, with my luck id suck something up into it.....unless im picturing it wrong lol.
03redsrt, the dsp is my next quot;bigquot; purchase, ive heard it does wonders.
lt;----stock airbox with a kn filter.
Originally Posted by phillipgober
thats pretty much what i was thinking about doing gizmodo, just welding insted of the rubber hoses, although the rubber hoses would be easier, so i might just do that. and valleyracer, id be worried to put just a screen on the turbo, with my luck id suck something up into it.....unless im picturing it wrong lol.
03redsrt, the dsp is my next quot;bigquot; purchase, ive heard it does wonders.
There are usually 5 categorical arguments on this topic
1) support of the factory airbox and various horsepower numbers
2) cold air only comes from fenderwell intakes by the tires
3) the intercooler equalizes all air temperatures
4) people sware by their short rams
5) the dynomometers prove no differnces in horsepower or driveabiltiy
Thanks everyone for the input!!!!!
Originally Posted by Dojaman
lt;----stock airbox with a kn filter.
Ditto. Watch me smash 350 soon |
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